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Generative Video WorldSim, Diffusion, Vision, Reinforcement Learning and Robotics — ICML 2024 Part 1

Discussion of OpenAI Sora, DeepMind Genie and VideoPoet, DreamFusion, Flow Matching, Stable Diffusion 3, NaturalSpeech 3, Test of Time Award Winner DeCAF, Lucas Beyer, and Chelsea Finn on Robotics

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We’ve been sitting on our ICML recordings for a while (from today’s first-ever SOLO guest cohost, Brittany Walker), and in light of Sora Turbo’s launch (blogpost, tutorials) today, we figured it would be a good time to drop part one which had been gearing up to be a deep dive into the state of generative video worldsim, with a seamless transition to vision (the opposite modality), and finally robots (their ultimate application).

Sora, Genie, and the field of Generative Video World Simulators

Bill Peebles, author of Diffusion Transformers, gave his most recent Sora talk at ICML, which begins our episode:

Something that is often asked about Sora is how much inductive biases were introduced to achieve these results. Bill references the same principles brought by Hyung Won Chung from the o1 team - “sooner or later those biases come back to bite you”.

We also recommend these reads from throughout 2024 on Sora.

Google DeepMind had a remarkably strong presence at ICML on Video Generation Models, winning TWO Best Paper awards for:

We end this part by taking in Tali Dekel’s talk on The Future of Video Generation: Beyond Data and Scale.

Part 2: Generative Modeling and Diffusion

Since 2023, Sander Dieleman’s perspectives (blogpost, tweet) on diffusion as “spectral autoregression in the frequency domain” while working on Imagen and Veo have caught the public imagination, so we highlight his talk:

Then we go to Ben Poole for his talk on Inferring 3D Structure with 2D Priors, including his work on NeRFs and DreamFusion:

Then we investigate two flow matching papers - one from the Flow Matching co-authors - Ricky T. Q. Chen (FAIR, Meta)

And how it is implemented in Stable Diffusion 3 with Scaling Rectified Flow Transformers for High-Resolution Image Synthesis

Our last hit on Diffusion is a couple of oral presentations on speech, which we leave you to explore via our audio podcast

Part 3: Vision

The ICML Test of Time winner was DeCAF, which Trevor Darrell notably called “the OG vision foundation model”.

Lucas Beyer’s talk on “Vision in the age of LLMs — a data-centric perspective” was also well received online, and he talked about his journey from Vision Transformers to PaliGemma.

We give special honorable mention to MLLM-as-a-Judge: Assessing Multimodal LLM-as-a-Judge with Vision-Language Benchmark.

Part 4: Reinforcement Learning and Robotics

We segue vision into robotics with the help of Ashley Edwards, whose work on both the Gato and the Genie teams at Deepmind is summarized in Learning actions, policies, rewards, and environments from videos alone.

Brittany highlighted two poster session papers:

• Behavior Generation with Latent Actions

• PIVOT: Iterative Visual Prompting Elicits Actionable Knowledge for VLMs

However we must give the lion’s share of space to Chelsea Finn, now founder of Physical Intelligence, who gave FOUR talks on

We end the podcast with a position paper that links generative environments and RL/robotics: Automatic Environment Shaping is the Next Frontier in RL.

Timestamps

00:00:00 Intros
00:02:43 Sora - Bill Peebles
00:44:52 Genie: Generative Interactive Environments
01:00:17 Genie interview
01:12:33 VideoPoet: A Large Language Model for Zero-Shot Video Generation
01:30:51 VideoPoet interview - Dan Kondratyuk
01:42:00 Tali Dekel - The Future of Video Generation: Beyond Data and Scale.
02:27:07 Sander Dieleman - Wading through the noise: an intuitive look at diffusion models
03:06:20 Ben Poole - Inferring 3D Structure with 2D Priors
03:30:30 Ricky Chen - Flow Matching
04:00:03 Patrick Esser - Stable Diffusion 3
04:14:30 NaturalSpeech 3: Zero-Shot Speech Synthesis with Factorized Codec and Diffusion Models
04:27:00 Speech Self-Supervised Learning Using Diffusion Model Synthetic Data
04:39:00 ICML Test of Time winner: DeCAF
05:03:40 Lucas Beyer: “Vision in the age of LLMs — a data-centric perspective”
05:42:00 Ashley Edwards: Learning actions, policies, rewards, and environments from videos alone.
06:03:30 Behavior Generation with Latent Actions interview
06:09:52 Chelsea Finn: "What robots have taught me about machine learning"
06:56:00 Position: Automatic Environment Shaping is the Next Frontier in RL

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Ashley Edwards

Reinforcement learning researcher whose contributions include Genie's latent action model, Gato's early Atari prototype, and imitation learning from observations.

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Ben Poole

Machine-learning researcher whose collaborative work spans diffusion models, text-to-3D generation, dynamic scene reconstruction and neural-network learning.

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Bill Peebles

Coauthor of Diffusion Transformers and former head of Sora, with research spanning image generation, learned optimization and visual alignment.

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Brittany Walker

CRV general partner investing in AI infrastructure and writing about agent experience, software distribution, and expertise embedded in products.

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Chelsea Finn

Stanford professor and Physical Intelligence cofounder working on robot learning, fast adaptation, and reliable general-purpose robots.

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Dan Kondratyuk

Machine learning researcher and rekursiv.ai co-founder whose work spans autoregressive video generation, efficient video recognition and multilingual parsing.

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